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EP - 110

Why Blind Signing Is Killing DeFi

with

DaoSasha & Jean-François Rochet
Head of Business Development @ 1inch & EVP Consumer Services @ Ledger

Dec 12, 2025

On this episode of The Ledger Podcast, Ledger’s Jean-François Rochet, who leads consumer services and the Ledger Wallet, sits down with DaoSasha, Head of Business Development at 1inch, to tackle one of crypto’s most dangerous and overlooked problems: blind signing. 

Their discussion highlights how the direct integration of Ledger signers into 1inch’s frontend is transforming the transaction signing experience, emphasizing why eradicating blind signing might be the single most important step toward onboarding the next billion users into DeFi.

“Blind signing is basically a red flag for mass adoption.” – DaoSasha

Watch the full episode below:

Key Highlights:

The Problem Nobody Talks About Enough: Why Blind Signing Blocks Mass Adoption

Blind signing, the act of approving a crypto transaction without being able to read or verify what you’re actually authorizing, is, as DaoSasha puts it, “like signing a contract without knowing what is inside.” It’s a practice so commonplace in crypto that users have normalized the risk, yet it represents one of the most significant barriers to mainstream DeFi adoption. 

Confusing an airdrop claim with a malicious contract permission that drains an entire wallet is exactly the kind of mistake blind signing invites,  and it’s why trust collapses so fast once something goes wrong. 

“I think people trust Ledger for that: they cannot take the risk of getting drained and losing all their assets. There’s nothing glorious in that,” Jean-François says.

That’s the takeaway Jean-François circles back to. That for DeFi to grow beyond its current audience of experienced users, signing has to become verifiable, readable, and trustworthy by default.

1inch’s Rebrand and the Push Into Institutional DeFi

1inch’s collaboration with Ledger coincided with its own evolution. The platform, which began as a DEX aggregator built at a hackathon, has rebranded with a new visual identity and a new slogan: “We Move Forward As One.”

The shift went beyond aesthetics, signaling 1inch’s ambitions to serve institutional players, including TradFi firms like banks and asset managers, alongside its existing business-to-consumer (B2C) user base.

“We started as a small project, grew as a unicorn in crypto, but to start working with bigger brands and institutions, we have to also grow visually.” – DaoSasha

The Fusion protocol evolved to aggregate liquidity across the market for better swap rates, and 1inch is increasingly engaged in custom business-to-business (B2B) development for institutional clients. Two requirements keep surfacing in those conversations: transparency and compliance, both of which map directly onto Clear Signing.

The Integration: Ledger Signers, Directly Inside 1inch

Ledger Wallet Direct Connectivity is the centerpiece of the discussion: a direct integration between Ledger hardware signers and the 1inch frontend, part of a broader push by Ledger to bring Clear Signing to partner dApps without requiring a browser extension or bridge. The idea is simple: instead of validating a swap transaction on a potentially compromised computer or phone screen, the confirmation happens on the Ledger signer’s Secure Screen, driven directly by the Secure Element.

Users connect their Ledger Wallet on via 1inch, select their address, and from that point forward, transaction validation moves off the computer and onto the hardware, where what’s displayed cannot be spoofed by malware. 

DaoSasha describes the outcome as “a symphony” between a trustworthy interface, a verifiable self-custody protocol, and a device users can genuinely rely on. Both sides highlighted that the integration came together fast, thanks to a collaborative effort in sprint mode.

Ledger’s Broader Vision: LedgerWallet™  as the Center of Digital Life

Jean-François situates the 1inch integration within a much larger picture of what wallets are becoming: a wallet built “free from compromise” doesn’t make choices for you; it should guide you and surface good options, then get out of the way.

What matters more is ownership itself. Your addresses, your ability to sign safely, and a growing pile of tokens that represent real-world assets, identity, memberships, and more. He draws a direct contrast between that and where a lot of big tech seems to be headed:

“There’s a very centralized version of the world where the world is starting to think for you… I don’t think that is extremely appealing.” 

Put the pieces together: hardware-secured addresses, Clear Signing, tokenized real-world assets, AI helping you check what you’re about to sign, and you get something closer to digital sovereignty than a crypto product. It’s also why Ledger keeps pushing for bigger, clearer, secure touchscreens on newer devices: more room to show you exactly what’s happening before you commit to it.

What’s Next: RWAs, Multisig, and AI-Assisted Signing

Both DaoSasha and Jean-François keep coming back to real-world assets as the thing that finally pulls in a new wave of users: real estate, bonds, even physical collectibles, tokenized and traded. DaoSasha also flags multisig overdue for the same fix Clear Signing gives wallets:

“Right now with the other multisig solutions, you will never really be able to know what you are signing. And I hope that we need to improve this user experience for the multisig options.” 

On a longer horizon, DaoSasha floats two ideas worth watching: a reputation or credit-scoring system for wallets, and an AI agent layer that translates a transaction into plain language for non-expert users, essentially a “grandma-friendly” assistant that confirms, in simple terms, exactly what a swap means before it’s signed.

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